I am trying, though it is a great trial to do so, to read Bernard Lonergan’s Method in Theology. (You may be even pleased to see that this is, as a consequence, perhaps one of my shortest posts!) A lot of Method in Theology, I am afraid, strikes me as just a matter of words tacked onto each other which effectively construct hyperbolic scenarios which, because of the nature of the hyperbole, signify nothing. I offer the following in evidence:
… religious conversion goes beyond moral. Questions for intelligence, for reflection, for deliberation reveal the eros of the human spirit, its capacity and its desire for self-transcendence. But that capacity meets fulfilment, that desire turns to joy, when religious conversion transforms the existential subject into a subject in love, a subject held, grasped, possessed, owned through a total and so an other-worldly love. [224]
There is simply no justification for taking the urge to understand as a capacity, let alone a desire, for self-transcendence, whatever that means. But then, when he builds on the intellectual drive to know, and goes on to speak of moral conversion, and suggests that religious conversion does not negate the fruits of moral conversion, as though we are building on assured results, there is no reason to take the words seriously. “In no way,” he affirms confidently, “are the fruits of intellectual or moral conversion negated or diminished [by religious conversion].” [224] But by yoking mind and morality with religion by using the word ‘conversion’, Lonergan is simply being misleading. For he then he goes on to speak of the fruits of religious conversion as something which vaults far beyond intellectual or moral conversion (leave aside what these may be reasonably thought to be, even if there is a reasonable explanation for them). We are not to think that religious conversion provides only “a more efficacious ground for the pursuit of intellectual and moral ends.” In other words, intellectual and moral conversion are diminished by religious conversion. Because it is at this point that we come to the hyperbole:
Religious loving is without conditions, qualifications, reservations: it is with all one’s heart, and all one’s soul and all one’s mind and all one’s strength. This lack of limitation, though it corresponds to the unrestricted character of of human questioning, does not pertain to this world. Holiness abounds in true and moral goodness, but it has a distinct dimension of its own. It is other-worldly fulfilment, joy, peace, bliss. In Christian experience these are the fruits of being in love with a mysterious, uncomprehended God. [224]
You didn’t know that so much hyperbole could be squeezed onto one page, although in his exuberance he spills over onto the next a line or too, but this time in a negative, Manichaean exaggeration, for, immediately after the preceding, he writes:
Sinfulness similarly is distinct from moral evil; it is the privation of total loving; it is a radical dimension of lovelessness.
And all this, without a bit of evidence at all, or any obvious reason why we should think that anything is being said.
What could Lonergan possibly mean by “being in love with a mysterious, uncomprehended God”? Or what can he mean by “a subject in love, a subject held, grasped, possessed, owned through a total and so an other-worldly love.” (my italics) I get the total and so other-worldly, since we are, after all, finite. But I do not understand what it means to be “grasped, possessed, [and] owned” (my italics again) by such a love. For is love possessive, domineering? Is it something which, given or received, is then to be interpreted in terms of ownership? Is it something which seeks to own and grasp? And what would such a love be like? To be possessed — the word immediately suggests itself — to be ravished by the object of one’s love? But then to speak of that object as mysterious, and not only as not fully known, but as uncomprehended? Are we not simply vaulting here into empty space, with the unwarranted conviction that something will keep us aloft?
And notice, because it is important that the options are absolute in this way, that if that love is rejected, the alternative is to be, not only unloved, but to be loveless, sequestered in a region of radical lovelessness. Quite aside from being uncomprehended, and the love apparently possessive, why should the rejection of it, because uncomprehended and seeking to own, imply lovelessness, and not caution? Why not simply an epistemological caution in the face of something (acknowledged to be) unknown and uncomprehended? Notice how the language of religion here slips over into unintelligibility, but with a promise, it seems, of ultimate meaningfulness, but not yet, not here, in this finite realm, where everything is only finite and partial. We merely have to have faith, but the faith here is left implicit, unvoiced.
In the context of method, in particular, Lonergan is trying to describe or characterise a stepwise progression through intellectual and moral conversion, when, for example, taking intellectual conversion first, one goes through the movement from one horizon to another, from the myth, as Lonergan calls it, of thinking that
… knowing is like looking, that objectivity is seeing what is there to be seen and not seeing what is not there to be seen and not seeing what is not there, and that the real is what is out there now to be looked at. [238]
This he contrasts with the world “mediated by meaning.” Which, quite frankly doesn’t make a lot of sense, since seeing is, in fact, invested with meaning. But this leads to the apparently “profound” observation that
Knowing, accordingly is not just seeing; it is experiencing, understanding, judging and believing. [loc. cit.]
And then he goes on to expatiate on that theme:
The reality known is not just looked at; it is given in experience, organized and extrapolated by understanding, posited by judgement and belief.
He wants us to become aware of the different possibilities that exist within that looking, and how what is seen can be variously — shall we say? — “intellectualised” or “philosophised.” Take one of Lonergan’s examples:
What is a myth? There are psychological, anthropological, historical, and philosophic answers to the question. But there are also reductive answers: myth is a narrative about entities not to be found within an empiricist, an idealist, a historicist, an existentialist horizon. [239]
To be converted intellectually is to be disabused of the myth that knowing is like looking, which Lonergan calls a blunder, and that is why he singles out the “reductive answer” for special animadversion. But there is no reason why we should not call the historical, anthropological or psychological answers reductive. Indeed, that is just what they are. And this points to the problem that I find with Lonergan’s work. He seems to be talking about something, but then, suddenly, it is as though he doesn’t recognize what he is saying. Reductive analyses of myths would simply be explanations in terms of theology, or some explanation of the historical origin of such outlandish stories. As to philosophic[al] answers to the question of myth — well, what more could it be but a reduction in terms that are intelligibly related to the things which, as philosophers, we can consider to be real? And theologians don’t get to inject their transcendent beings into philosophy. That is theology, pure and simple, and, if it is to be justified at all, to be given a philosophical imprimatur, will have to be accounted as more than simply mysterious and uncomprehended.
I do not want to take this too far, because I don’t want, in the end, to read Lonergan too closely. To me, this sort of thing has become a trial simply to read. What I have read I have found turgid and irrelevant to what philosophers or scientists talk about when they are speaking about knowledge, about what it means to understand something as a part of the reality that, as finite knowers, we model in experience and language. But what we seem to have — and those who have read Lonergan more closely may be able to enlarge on this, or simply to correct me — is a reluctance to allow oneself to be pinned down by the limitations of the natural world. Knowing may not, in the end, be simply the product of looking, but looking is at least its point of departure. To jump from the natural world, and to speak of going beyond “intelligence, … reflection, [and] deliberation [to] reveal the eros of the human spirit, [with] its capacity and its desire for self-transcendence,” is jumping off into the unknown, as he himself acknowledges when he comes to the “mysterious, uncomprehended God.” And there is no reason, it seems to me, for going there, for what is it to encounter the “uncomprehended” but to reach the limits of reason? But if we have reached it, why speak of a god or gods? Why not simply stay with that ignorance, and acknowledge that we do not, and cannot know?
Someone has reprogrammed the PoMo generator with theospeak. All those great soaring unqualified abstractions and generalisations unburdened by facts and definitions.
40 years ago this sort of verbiage impressed me greatly – nowadays, I prefer Sgt Joe Friday’s approach, “Just the facts, ma’am.”
We salute your heroism in reading this stuff, Eric.
Apparently, the book blew a reviewers mind on Amazon. It seems to be a “much loved” book. I have no idea how you and Jerry Coyne can read ST and not go mad. In any case, I salute your heroism, as well.
I’ve often wondered if I should generate a false paper of ‘Sophisticated Theology’ somewhat like Alan Sokal did for Social Text, an academic journal of postmodern cultural studies. But then I restrained my myself because it seemed unkind.
A great deal of Theospeak seems to be written in Mobius form. Each neighbouring concept seems to be logical, but if you keep going you’ll find yourself back at the beginning but upside down. However I do wonder if Rowan Williams will come clean on his retirement and claim he was kidding all along.
+1
Since someone has to read the STs, Eric and Jerry do a lot of good work. They have a lot of patience.
If this is short Eric, don’t make them any longer than this!
Let it go Eric. Move beyond wading through the deep darkness, a critique of quicksand that reflects our own former lives in quicksand. Look at it from a more distant relative position: its impact on real issues — as you do so well. I could not finish your first paragraph; it was too painful. Am I missing something? Is there beneficial learning there?
It’s a kind of Buzzword Bingo, isn’t it? You have a big bag full of these words and phrases: ‘Love’, ‘Transcendence’. ‘Joy’, ‘Ineffable”, ‘Logos’, ‘Bliss’, ‘Sin’, and you draw them out at random, string them together with a few connectors, and send it off to the theological journal or apologist website. Next issue, shake and repeat. Plenty of readers will be silly and desperate enough to think it addresses their issues, just as plenty of students who used the basic Eliza ‘AI’ program thought it was a real person who was interested in them. And plenty of writers are silly and desperate enough to think they’ve actually SAID something when they carry out this sort of exercise.
Well, I’ve ordered this book and a version of “Insight”, at least, so I’ll aim to give my comments on it at some other time.
A few pre-amble comments:
Considering that you said that he built on things discussed earlier, it’s always a little unfair to post quotes from the end of the book when you’re trying to make a claim that what’s being said is obtuse and confused/confusing. Ideally, the previous works and writings would make it clear what he means here and provide the appropriate context. Not having read it yet, he may just be a bad writer, though.
Also, looking around his name briefly, it looks like he does hermaneutics, which is known for this type of writing … and the listed problems. I took a course in it briefly, but had to drop it because I broke my wrist and had a hard time getting to class with that. I don’t favour that approach, and this is what you’re making me read. I hope you’re happy [grin].
I don’t think that this is necessarily a good resource for what the actual method of theology is, but Kaufmann’s book is just too expensive for what it would give me.
Verbosestoic: I don’t take the quotes from the end of the book. What I meant was what he had said earlier in time, and I meant his more developed philosophy argued for in detail in Insight. The quotes in my post come from early in the book on theological method. I have to be frank. There are two books in my life that I have tried to read and never finished. One is James’ Joyce’s Ulysses, the other is Lonergan’s Insight. (Finnegan’s Wake I never tried.) (By the way, you can get Kaufmann’s book from Alibris from around $3.00)
Well, David (#6), I tend to agree, I’m looking for refreshment in a dry well. However, the point still needs to be made that, whether or not nonbelievers have the burden of proof here, it at least behoves us from time to time at least to work through some of the stuff that the religious produce. If we don’t the accusation can reasonably be made that we haven’t really noticed the important things. And how do we know, unless we look? That’s my justification for doing it, painful as it might be at times, and I do find Lonergan painful. It’s interesting that the best known Canadian “philosophers” are Bernard Lonergan and Charles Taylor (who won the Templeton Prize). There are others, I am sure, who deserve our attention, but we can scarcely ignore these prominent Canadian thinkers (especially if we’re Canadian). However, as you say, I do find Lonergan a painful read, and when I read Taylor, I find myself disagreeing with so much that I spend most of my time writing down negative annotations in whatever white space is provided on the page.
Eric,
You must be reading from a complete works edition, then, since your page numbers seem to start in the 200s, which means a lot had gone on before. But still, as you yourself say, a lot of what is said in that book depends on accepting what was said before.
I also expect to find Lonergan about as painful a read as you did …
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