Giles Fraser, circumcision, liberalism and identity

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Let’s get this straight to start with. Giles Fraser is a priest in the Church of England. Born a Jew, and circumcised according to Jewish custom when he was 8 days old, he relented when his wife objected to circumcision, and did not have his son Felix circumcised according to the custom of his people. All this is recorded in his Guardian article, “This German circumcision ban is an affront to Jewish and Muslim identity.”

What started the ball rolling was a decision in a Cologne court where a judge ruled that circumcision is against the best interests of the child, and accordingly instituted a legal ban. The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, said that she “did not want Germany to be the only country in the world in which Jews cannot practice their rights.” An interesting sidelight on this statement, which Fraser tells us beggars belief, is that the original case concerned a Muslim boy, and complications arising from his circumcision.

I have already expressed myself in support of the judgement of the court in Cologne. The problem as I saw it then — and I have not changed my mind — is that the belief that the common good of the community can be achieved independently of individual autonomy is not obvious. This would have to be shown, and, I suggest, it cannot be. If community can exist only by suppressing the autonomy of individuals, has the common good been achieved, or is there still something wanting — namely, the personal fulfilment of individuals? It is so easy to talk about the priority of community, as Fraser does, without recognising its cost to individuals. This does not mean, of course, that we do not have to balance the demands of community against the demands of individual autonomy. It may not be to the good of individuals, as well as the community, if autonomy always trumps community, but simply claiming that community should precede and trump autonomy is equally unsatisfactory.

The reason I am raising this issue again is because Fraser has allowed his argument to spill over into the Jewish Chronicle, where he has published an article edgily entitled, “Say hello to the twisted ideology of choice,” in which he pits liberal autonomy against religious community and identity. He does this in a very direct and simplistic manner. He asks us to imagine a liberal community in which some mad parents decide not to teach their children a language:

After all, [he writes] a language like English is impregnated with a set of values and assumptions. So why not keep the child away from all language and then when they get to adulthood allow them to choose for themselves?

To which he then adds:

I offer this bonkers experiment as a reductio ad absurdum of the sort of thing that is often said about imposing religion on children.

It is not, however, so easy to reduce arguments or claims to the absurd, and I do not think Fraser has been successful in this instance.

The reasons for Fraser’s failure are not far to seek. There is a big difference between rites which are associated with cultural or religious identity, and the learning of a language. Languages may be impregnated with values and assumptions, but language also provides the means for questioning those values. It is impossible to address questions to a circumcision. It is either done or not done, and if it is done it is not undoable. Consider the so-called circumcision of girls. More radical, certainly, but no less related to cultural and religious identity, and no more able to be rebutted by an argument. If the circumcision of the male is permitted, then, by parity of reasoning, the circumcision of the female should be permitted too, if it is a matter of intimate cultural and religious identity.

And what about other cultural rites and practices — the initiation rites of boys in Papua New Guinea, for example? In his book, The Culture Cult, Roger Sandall quotes from Robert Edgerton’s Sick Societies, where these rites are described. Edgerton’s account refers to the initiation practices of PNG societies before Australian contact, which

required that boys go through initiation ceremonies in which they were forced to drink only partly slaked lime that blistered their mouths and throats, were beaten with stinging nettles, were denied water, had barbed grass pushed up their urethras to cause bleeding, were compelled to swallow bent lengths of can until vomiting was induced, and were required to fellate older men, who also had anal intercourse with them. [100]

Those who experience such an initiation would no doubt experience a kind of indelible bonding with the community, and the priority of community authority over their own individual desires or choices, but it is not obvious that this would be in any way desirable, or worth perpetuating, or that the practices should be upheld by the courts of a liberal democracy.

It may be said that the circumcision of boys is in no way so draconian or inhuman as this. Yet it is a practice for which there is no obvious rationale, save the maintenance of community identity. And there is no sense in which the induction of the child into the language community is a helpful analogy to what is being done to the body in the course of circumcision. To see this we should remember how widely in Africa and elsewhere female circumcision is practiced, recognising that precisely the same defence is being made of this practice that is made by Fraser for the practice of male circumcision, namely, community and cultural identity. Fraser attempts to deny that there are any parallels here. In his Jewish Chronicle article he says that after his Guardian article he

was inundated with letters telling me I was a child abuser, that male circumcision was like female genital mutilation. But mostly the arguments against it were about choice.

But, of course, circumcision is like female genital mutilation. The fact that it is so widely practiced, so that it is scarcely noticed any more, does not change the fact that it is an unnecessary mutilation of the male sexual organ.

That both practices centre on the sexual organs is obviously of some significance, even though that significance is now apparently lost to history. The bizarre story in Exodus (chapter 4), where Moses is saved from God’s homicidal wrath by the circumcision of his son, the prepuce being thrown in the direction of the menacing presence of God, is a dramatic account of the importance of circumcision, but it does nothing to justify it, or to explain its significance.

And suggestively throwing in the horrors of the Nazi treatment of the Jews as a kind of bomb into the middle of the discussion is scarcely helpful, because this is a case in which individual rights are uppermost. No one is denying that circumcision is a legitimate mark of belonging; the issue is whether this mark of belonging should be imposed on those unable to choose this physical mark of belonging for themselves. Trying to conceal this by playing the Nazi card is basically dishonest. I have suggested that the same should also apply to baptism for Christians. While not producing (except theologically) an indelible mark, baptism is also about community identity, which is reinforced by parents who promise to bring up their children in the faith of the church, a promise which clearly preempts the child’s choice in the matter.

It is at this point that Fraser’s argument plays fast and loose with how we are to understand membership in a faith community. He argues, as many others do, that faith has nothing essentially to do with belief. In the Guardian article he says:

… one of the most familiar modern mistakes about faith is that it is something that goes on in your head. This is rubbish. Faith is about being part of something wider than oneself.

However, if belonging to something that is wider than oneself includes being taught as unquestionably true certain beliefs about the world and history, and about the sacredness of certain books and places, rituals and communal practices, then faith is also about what goes on in your head, and includes an array of beliefs and truth claims as well as ritual practices, spiritual experiences, and communal belonging, all intended, as we now know, and often very effectively used, to imprint an entire way of life onto a developing mind. Faith may be about being part of something wider than oneself, but it is also undeniably about belief as well, beliefs about what is included amongst the various items of furniture that go to make up the world as seen through the eyes of faith. For a Christian priest to deny this, when at the centre of the church’s liturgy is a statement of belief, seems to me to be a little like straining at gnats and ignoring far bigger game.

That doesn’t mean, of course, that we cannot see that religion engages many other aspects of the human psyche than simply the discursively intellectual one. Of course it does. Religions have been particularly successful in enlisting the loyalty and support of their members by using an entire spectrum of beliefs and practices to provide a comprehensive view of reality as a single whole. And the word ‘view’ doesn’t quite capture the totalising experience of religious faith, for religion engages practically every aspect of thought,  feeling and communal belonging. And here the Nazi experience is actually a useful analogy, for Hitler learned an enormous amount about creating an all-encompassing sense of belonging from his early experience of the Roman Catholic Church, as an acolyte at the Lambach monastery, where he attended school, and where the solemn high mass affected him deeply. The repetitiveness of the message, the enlistment of youthful enthusiasm, the idea of snatching victory from defeat, the use of symbols and ritual (there were actually several swastikas in the Benedictine monastery school that he attended), the repeated declarations of belief and loyalty: all these became parts of Hitler’s totalising ideology to which people were prepared to commit themselves until death. Anyone who has watched Leni Riefenstahl’s Triumph des Willens, filmed during the 1934 Parteitag in Nuremberg, will have a glimpse into the mesmerising world of religious ritual, and the way that it uses all the senses in producing an overwhelming sense of belonging to something greater than oneself.

One Hitler poster in particular pays tribute to Hitler’s religious sense of his own significance, and pays a debt to the religion which, while opposing it politically, he never renounced — and which, it is worth remarking, never renounced him. Here is that astonishing poster, obviously borrowing Christian themes to underline the Nazi belief (and Hitler’s belief as well) in Hitler’s significance as an outworking of Providence.

Hitler as the chosen one of (divine?) destiny. Es lebe Deutschland means essentially ‘Vive Germany!’ or ‘Long Live Germany!’

Of course, there is no doubt that, in one sense, Fraser is right. Belief is secondary to faith. Listening to Hitler’s speeches is like listening to a broken record. But it is not only the repetitiveness; it is the platitudinous nature, the emptiness of what he says, that is so striking. The words themselves are accompanied by ritual and drama, and that is what gives the beliefs substance. The same may almost certainly be said about most religious beliefs. They are, in a sense, only the intellectual scaffolding on which experiences may be hung, and the experiences are what give significance and substance to the beliefs.

This, however, does not make the beliefs unimportant. Faith is not only about belonging. It is about believing too, and religious beliefs often unfold in completely inhuman ways. All you have to do is to ask someone like Tony Nicklinson what effect religious beliefs had on his life. Or, and much more ominously, how the emotional loading of the contemptible beliefs spouted so passionately by Hitler spelled disaster for so many millions of people. The beliefs may seem trivial, but loaded with emotion and drama, they may have disastrous effects.

It is one thing to celebrate a belonging that you think is unexceptionable and possibly even personally rewarding; but it is quite another simply to affirm the importance of belonging to something greater than oneself, and in relation to such belonging to stress the unimportance of autonomy and choice. “Choice,” says Fraser in his Jewish Chronicle article, “has become a cuckoo value in our society — driving out other values like fairness and community.” In his Guardian article he says that “[l]iberalism constitutes the view from nowhere, [and] has no sense of history.” Why? Because a court in Cologne claimed that a child should not be physically mutilated as a sign of belonging? And because this is unthinkable in a country which had demonised and almost succeeded in exterminating the people whose rite of belonging this is? Talk about ruling passions! The question is whether this is a reasonable thing to do to infants unable to think or to choose for themselves. We have evidence of what happens when things are done to children which make choice later in life difficult or impossible. We have evidence now, practically everywhere, of how religious belonging makes community virtually impossible to achieve, because religious belonging tends to be totalising and exclusive. As a result people respond in completely idiotic ways to perceived insults or offences. Mentally challenged little girls are imprisoned for the supposed offence of blasphemy, and Christians flee in fear before the comprehensive belonging of their Muslim neighbours. Does Fraser not see a problem with this, or does he simply choose to close his eyes to it for fear of causing offence?

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20 thoughts on “Giles Fraser, circumcision, liberalism and identity

  1. Elsewhere I’ve written:

    Once monotheism, philosophy, and the search for meaning became an ongoing concern it was inevitable that a class of people would step forward and make ‘Religion’ their profession (their living) and defend it against gainsayers.

    I wonder Eric if you once believed you were a ‘conduit’ between God and the community? Because I think that is what has sparked off Giles Fraser. From what he has written elsewhere he has some concerns about the formal beliefs of his God, and if it turned out that the community he ministers to is actually not a community at all but a collection of thinking individuals, then his job as ‘god whisperer’ is defunct. No wonder he values ‘religious identity’ above the rights of individuals.

  2. was inundated with letters telling me I was a child abuser, that male circumcision was like female genital mutilation. But mostly the arguments against it were about choice.

    Why is the idea of choice in sneer quotes? What’s the value of a community if you’re compelled to join?

    I wonder how many Germans said to themselves after the Cologne judgement “Terriffic, now I have an excuse to give my relatives when they try to force me to hurt my infant son.”

  3. I don’t believe Fraser is stupid, and his latest Guardian article is titled “I believe in God. I don’t believe in God – There’s nothing wrong with holding self-contradictory views. In fact it’s the path to wisdom.” does go some way to explain why his argument appears so unreasonable.

  4. Again, theist code words, people.

    “Community” = Conformity.

    Screw that. As I told Bob a while back, you do NOT get to tell me what to do, how to dress, where I may or may not wear hats, whether or not a bacon cheeseburger is an acceptable part of my diet, how to or with whom to engage in sexual congress (or not), and on and on and on and on.

  5. Is it really so difficult to belong to a Jewish community with a foreskin still in place? I find it hard to believe that Jewish males present their members to each other on any kind of regular basis. Community can be built in many ways, most of which do not involve irreversible mutilations on people that have no choice in the matter and have no other tangible benefit to offset the risks. If it is so important let the adults make their own decisions about their own anatomy, and then they can show off to each other and belong to such a community all they want after their childhood is over.

    I hope the day can come when male circumcision is no longer the default in US hospitals, where the practice has much less to do with religious identities. The German courts did their citizens a great service with their ruling.

  6. Circumcision has proved beneficial, not only medically, but financially as well, in certain regions of the world–Asia and Africa–where HIV is prevalent among heterosexuals. The WHO indicates that circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%.

    Additionally, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), in a statement endorsed by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, publicly amended its position Monday on circumcision, for the first time in more than a decade, moving to support the procedure in light of recent research supporting its health benefits–prevention against transmission of STDs, of urinary tract infections in first year of life, and penile cancers. Even though UTIs are uncommon among infants less than 1%, I think.

    Of course, this is extremely controversial and the majority of the data supporting the HIV prevention method was obtained in African countries and regions where HIV has reached epidemic heights among heterosexuals. So, one could argue different ethnicity, different population, different sexual habits, etc made the studies methodologically flawed. While, the strongest argument against circumcision is: you are removing healthy skin tissue from non-consenting infant boys which violates medical ethics and human rights.

    Fraser’s argument of choice falls immeasurably short of its target for the reasons you outlined above. However, if Fraser wanted to argue that it protects the child from urinary tract infections in his first year or penile cancer or HIV than that is another argument entirely and one that cannot be easily dismissed on ethical grounds.

    For me, any circumcision procedure performed for religious or cultural reasons is a violation of medical ethics and human rights and should be banned from medical practice. However, if the procedure is performed to protect the boy from urinary tract infections or penile cancer than that is a much more difficult medical procedure to dismiss without a thorough examination of the data.

  7. Any figures on botched circumcisions? I would think if it is done in a hospital, then there is also risk of infection from some pretty nasty antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

  8. Persto, you are quite right about the possible medical benefits of circumcision. If that were the case, the justification would be quite different. The only point I wish to make is that religious or cultural justifications of the practice of infant circumcision cannot be justified, and must be dismissed, as you say, on ethical grounds.

  9. According to the WHO, “Three randomized controlled trials have shown that male circumcision provided by well trained health professionals in properly equipped settings is safe.” The controlled trials were mainly among adult males, though.

    I know that complications from circumcision are rare among infants, I think one in five hundred. You’re right there are infection risks but mainly local infections and bleeding not anything life-threatening. Death is extremely rare if the procedure is done under proper circumstances. For example, no deaths occurred in an analysis of 500,000 circumcisions in New York City or 175,000 circumcisions in U.S. Army hospitals.

  10. If my quick check is correct, the STD rate in the US is about 2%/year. So a 50% decrease would drop it to 1%. A substantial number, but the risk is low to begin with. Also it would seem that instead of circumcising children, perhaps adults could make the decision given their risk factors.

  11. “perhaps adults could make the decision given their risk factors.”

    Correct and I would agree, but transmission of STDs is only one of the benefits of circumcision. Circumcision to prevent UTIs would be something that would affect only the infant male’s first year of life.

  12. Hardly seems worth it – unless it was a recurring problem. It is not like vaccination anyway.

  13. They brand men like a herd of cows. American men are such wimps to let their sons be subjected to this absurd surgery. If it were women tied down & cut, the Feminists would be howling all over the world. The male genitals are a cheap commodity. There is no argument too absurd for the circumcisers. They insult the appearance of the intact penis, claim that circumcision heals everything from body warts to HIV, and draw an illogical distinction between female & male genitals. Circumcision is the mark of a slave, my friends.

    Top Ten Tortures Less Painful Than Circumcision

    10. Get knocked out by Mohammed Ali.
    9. Pull out your fingernails.
    8. Eat a pile of steaming bear crap.
    7. Skin yourself alive.
    6. Fall into a vat of molten iron.
    5. Get run over by a train.
    4. Go through a sausage grinder.
    3. Saw off your legs.
    2. Poke out your eyes.
    1. Go To Hell

    ~Dick-Scalper

  14. I am repeating myself; I wrote of my botched circumcision when the German decision was a topic here. Botched circumcisions may be rare, but mine (Doctor to parents: “Sorry, I slipped and cut too much off; he might have trouble becoming a father.”) has ruined any sort of sex life that I might have had. No, I didn’t die, my life wasn’t threatened, but I’ve spent a lot of my adult life wondering about what sex with an intact penis might have been like. You can imagine that this is a difficult issue for me to be “objective” about.

  15. I did not mean to imply that I have changed my mind about the law, the STD transmission rate benefit is something that a small child need not make a permanent decision on. I was grateful to have been shown my error in that there are indeed some benefits, but still none of them seem worth depriving people the right to choose when they become mentally capable of doing so.

  16. This is actually a complicated issue, with no simple solution. It is one thing to disagree on something morally, but it’s another to force people to adopt your moral conclusion. A liberal state that begins to moralize on its citizens, for example banning smoking cigarettes or alcohol, is actually behaving like a tyranny.

    And I just don’t like Fraser’s kind of irresponsibility. If he wants to be a troublemaker, then why doesn’t he take off his dog collar and put on a pussy riot mask? Because Fraser enjoys the privileges and power that comes with his status and various media soapboxes.

  17. There are many Gods, my friends… some more cruel & jealous than Others. I stand by my statements above. Circumcision is the mark of a slave, not a free man.
    ~Dick-Scalper

  18. Reverend Fraser is either a fool, or being disingenuous if he thinks there are any real parallels between refusing to teach one’s child a language and not removing a piece of their body. He sneers at the notion of a man having the choice of whether he wants his penis to remain whole or circumcised, he also said he felt like he was betraying his Jewish ancestors by giving his son this choice. One could argue that Fraser has already betrayed his ancestors by becoming a Christian priest rather than a Rabbi, something that was entirely his choice. I could be wrong, but as Jews themselves measure such things, since Fraser’s mother wasn’t Jewish (he doesn’t say if she converted or not), then he himself was never truly Jewish, despite his penis receiving the Jewish treatment, and since Fraser chose (that word again) the path of Christianity and married a non-Jewish woman, there is absolutely no need for his son to be circumcised in accordance to Jewish tradition. He even admits this. One suspects that this is less a matter of religion on his part and more a case of ego as it often is with fathers who want their sons to be circumcised as they were.

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