I was going to continue with my series on Christopher Hitchens’ god is not Great today, but then I bumped into Andrew Brown way out of intellectual bounds, and decided a few more words directed toward him, as well as towards the huge brouhaha brewing over the place of religion in public life, would possibly be more to the point. The US bishops were girding up their loins for a long battle with unseen forces — even to the point of shedding blood! – at the same time that Baroness Warsi and her Tory pals made their pilgrimage to Rome in defence of religion against the looming powers of secularism. Suddenly, it seems as though the whole religious world has lost touch with reality, beleaguered and threatened by an imagined bogeyman whom they have chosen to name “secularism” even though, like their god or gods, there really is nothing there.
Andrew Brown says that “militant secularists” fail to understand the rules of secular debate, and in an article bearing that title simply fails to explain what he means. Indeed, he makes no sense at all this time, and although purportedly about militant secularists, he does not explain what he means by the term. Consider this paragraph from his article, in which he claims to be explaining what he means by militant secularism:
There are three kinds of people in Britain today who might be taken for militant secularists: that is to say people who are not just themselves unbelievers, but have an emotional investment in the extirpation of religious belief in others. There are the adolescents who have just discovered “rationality”; there are gay people who feel personally threatened by traditional monotheist morality; and, in this country, there are parents frustrated by the admissions policy of religiously controlled schools.
This is simply incoherent, as just a moment’s thought on Brown’s part should have confirmed. He does mention Dawkins in connexion with adolescent secularists, some of whom, we are told,
… discover Richard Dawkins the way that others discover Ayn Rand. Large confident solutions to all the world’s problems, which are only held back by the stupidity and self-interest of the old, will always appeal to teenagers.
But that’s about as close to a statement about militant secularism that he gets. After discussing the uniquely bewildering English school system for a few irrelevant paragraphs, he then says, suddenly, and irrelevantly:
None of these groupings are large enough in themselves to threaten the future of Christianity, or of Islam, in this country. But they make a useful enemy for politicians such as Lady Warsi.
Their real offence, though, is that they don’t understand the rules of secular debate.
The pronouns “their” and “they” don’t refer to anything that could be construed as militant secularism, and the claim that “they don’t understand the rules of secular debate” is arguably without any reference at all.
In any event, at this point, Brown makes a leap of faith and refers us, without any clear reason for doing so, to Julian Baggini’s article on the neutrality of the secular state: “‘A secular state must be neutral’ – what does that mean exactly?” This is where Brown’s problem begins, and he only leaves himself the space of a three or four Twitter posts in which to solve it. Here’s the heart of his answer:
But Baggini’s definition provides a way to understand this. A secularist, he says, is someone who appeals to natural reason, and not to divine law. And this kind of reason is by definition something shared by both sides in the argument. But the militant secularist takes for granted that “the religious” have no access to reason. There can be no reasoning with his opponents. All he can do is to repeat himself more loudly until the idiots understand.
However, I can find nothing that justifies that confident, “But the militant secularist takes for granted that “the religious” have no access to reason.” Indeed, Baggini’s supposition is that, like all other human beings, they do. All they have to leave out is any reference to a supposed divine law. This is, after all, a reasonable restriction. Of course, religious communities can order their own relationships, and establish their own parameters, more or less as they please. However, since religions differ from and conflict with each other at the level of their positive claims about the divine and/or the spiritual realm, and the consequences they draw from those claims, it is only reasonable to leave these contentious points out of consideration when trying to find a modus vivendi for larger ventures — like the nation — in which all are involved in searching for ways to live together in peace. The situation is very much like the Reformation settlement in 16th century Britain when the issue was mainly the diversity and militancy of Christian convictions upon which so many lives were lost.
Brown’s pathetic maunderings do not even scratch the surface of the problems involved, which have very little, if anything, to do with the British school system. The same problems are in evidence practically everywhere around the world. The role of Islam in Egypt, for instance, where Islamist parties were recently victorious at the polls, raises questions about the role of minorities, and especially Coptic Christians, within the national community. The battle over contraception in the United States, which the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has decided to raise to the level of a First Amendment contest for religious freedom, even though that amendment was arguably about individual rights rather than the rights of religious institutions, is another case in point. Baggini’s answer to the problem of religious diversity is a simple one. This is not something that can be settled at the level of religious institutions, which are irrevocably locked in disagreement. What must take place is that citizens see themselves, at the level of political community, as citizens first and foremost. Religion comes later. The question is not one about institutions, but about how individuals can live together in peace, even though they may disagree about beliefs and practices which they take to be of fundamental importance for their own lives. If religious institutions, and any supposed rights which institutions might claim in the social contract are placed first, there is simply no way of reaching agreement, for the religions themselves are intrinsically divided, and, barring a miracle, will remain so.
As Baggini says, dividing national communities along religious lines would be disastrous:
I think it would be disastrous to structure public life in such a way to encourage people to organise around their ethnic or religious identities. In civic life, people should see themselves as citizens first, the identity they share with others, and Christian, atheist, European or whatever the identity that divides them from others second. The recognition of the plurality of values does not require pluralistic public processes. Faiths which embrace pluralism will be happy in a truly secular society. Those that do not will hardly be better represented in a pluralist one.
Baroness Warsi and her gang of pious politicos (as the National Secular Society in Britain calls Warsi’s mission to the Vatican) believe that the only way to achieve justice in a multireligious society is for the religions to be prominent in public debate and decision making. She tells us in an article in the Telegraph that her delegation to the Vatican will (although she puts it in the first person):
be arguing that to create a more just society, people need to feel stronger in their religious identities and more confident in their creeds. In practice this means individuals not diluting their faiths and nations not denying their religious heritages.
Clearly, Baggini’s article is a direct response to this claim, and it seems quite clear that Baggini has history on his side. An Islamist Egypt, for instance, is almost certainly a place where minorities will not receive justice. Indeed, in such a situation, for Copts to “feel stronger in their religious [identity] and more confident in their creeds” would undoubtedly lead to an intensification of persecution. The only reason that Warsi could possibly think that justice would be served in Britain by an intensification of people’s religious identities, is a conviction that, in Britain, a stronger Muslim presence would not lead to similar injustices. She does not seem to recognise that it is precisely the secularity of British society that has enabled the influx of millions of Muslims into a secular Britain which does not suppress Muslim opinion even when it becomes militantly anti-British. A strongly Christian Britain would not have been nearly so patient or indulgent.
Indeed, as Brown says, bringing his article to a close:
And, of course, in Britain today, no militant has the power to persecute his enemies with the force of law. But that’s not because we’re nicer than other people, but because our political system is better.
Remember, though, that Brown is ostensibly speaking about militant secularism. He even denies that “militant” secularists understand the rules of secular debate. Yet it is precisely secularism that makes the British political system better than one in which religious identities are strong and given priority over the common good, a secularism that assumes that everyone is capable of reason and rational discourse, and can distinguish this from partisan religious commitments. It is not, as Baroness Warsi complains, that secularism is intolerant and illiberal. The whole purpose of secularism is to isolate intolerant religious and other factional opinion, and the only reason that it seems intolerant is that it does not and cannot quiescently tolerate the hydra-headed intolerance of the religions and their conflicting beliefs and moral priorities. She is the one who simply has not learned the rules of secular debate, and it is this misunderstanding — shared, it seems, by David Cameron — that led her on such a quixotic mission to the Vatican.
I may be being naive; however, I didn’t know there were “rules” for secular debate. Who makes these rules, and who is required to follow these rules?
Spot on, Eric. Do you think you could come over here and bang some heads together for us (or is that sounding too “militant”).
Veronica, of course, in a sense you are quite correct. There are no prescribed rules for secular debate, but there are at least tacit rules having to do with the provision of evidence and the advancement of reasons. Also, as secular, it excludes priorities which are unique to religious discourse, so “revelation” cannot be correctly adduced in the context of secular discourse, nor can ideas such as divine laws, what a god or gods require, and things for which only theological justification can be provided, since theologies belong intrinsically to various positive religions.
I believe that Warsi’s real problem is that, in order to give room for Islam to function, since aspects of Islam are incorrigibly political, and pertain to public order and law, she needs to claim that Christianity must also be encouraged to function at the same level. What she seems not to recognise is that if Christianity and Islam get involved as well as invoked in the context of public discourse, the ineradicable divisions between them will then come to be expressed in terms of conflicts of power, with the disastrous results Baggini so justifiably fears. That this is not obvious to her (and her gang of pious politicos) is very puzzling. Does she not see how religious identity is playing itself out in places like Nigeria, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, and elsewhere? Does she really think that that would be better than the secular consensus that characterises the political system in Britain? The mind simply rebels in the face of such stupidity. What bemuses me is who she convinced Cameron’s government that going cap in hand to the pope was a politically astute thing to do.
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I’m sure Eric appreciates your invitation, but he is doing a great job where he is. There are lots of heads that need banging together in Eric’s own country and especially in his own province.
I’ve not commented on Brown’s latest article – so many others had already pointed out its many shortcomings.
It is interesting though how the term ‘militant secularist’ has popped into being. Without any explanation or examples you have to draw the conclusion that it is merely a term of abuse. Whatever next? ‘Militant Atheist Secularists’? ‘Godless Militant Atheist Secularists’? ‘Paedophile Godless Militant Atheist Secularists’? ‘Terrorist Paedophile Godless Militant Atheist Secularists’?
Demonization of opponents. It’s what religions do.
It is interesting how we’ve suddenly shifted from new atheism to secularism, when–if we think about it–they are both the same thing. The American kind of secularism anyway.
Secularism ought to be understood as a practical principle that protects a free democratic society, and rests on Enlightenment liberal values, values that are required in order to understand why secularism (of the aggressive American kind) is necessary.
Where both Baggini and Brown fail to understand secularism, is where they believe secularism means embracing a plurality of values, or political pluralism. They both lack an understanding of human psychology, since are no such pluralities, only rational values and irrational values.
Irrational values are both incoherent and tend toward authoritarianism. Rational values spring from the shared rational interests of individuals, which are almost always about prosperity and the value of life. Sometimes rational and irrational values co-exist, and so conservatives or authoritarians are sometimes perceived as holding enlightened rational values, when in fact they do not.
The left has turned into the opposite of its original aims–it becomes as authoritarian as the right–approaching culture and society in terms of outside influences that dictate to them their beliefs, values, moralities and so on. Enlightenment values, values on which secularism rests, are rational values, not based on neutrality but on individual reason.
America retains its secularism when religious authoritarianism tries to impose its will on others, while in Britain, secularism can never take root, because it’s constantly being undermined by the false values of moderation or neutrality.
Brown and sometimes Baggini write incoherent and silly articles. Their values are not based in reason, but in the intellectual and social culture they grew up in–multiculturalist relativistic, pluralistic and incoherent.
The only problem so far with new atheism is that it’s still not fully conscious of its own liberal enlightenment values, something which I’ve been trying to raise over the last few months. And so now freedom of speech and secularism have come to the fore, we can understand why these values are so important to the atheist movement.
Sorry about the poor grammar and structure of my comment but I posted in haste!
It seems there is a near universal understanding that religious beliefs are categorically different from any other position. If I try to convince you that a carbon tax will not, on balance, be beneficial to the economy and environment, no one would claim that I have an emotional investment in the extirpation of your belief in the value of a carbon tax. But if I try to convince you that it is wrong to value unjustified beliefs…
Eric – I enjoy your blog quite a bit. Please consider that the term, “off the reservation”, is racist in that it was coined to describe native American peoples who had left the confines of a government-run gulag presumably to cause trouble in white society.
Thank you, Rick. I was a bit uncomfortable with using the expression in the first place, so I have changed it. And ‘out of bounds’, like a schoolboy, sounds even more appropriate to convey the meaning I had mind.