The God Delusion Again

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I want to come back to my series of comments on reviews of The God Delusion. There is an almost unending number of them, and some of them can be ignored; but it would be unwise to ignore one by Tom Nagel, for instance, since his standing as a philosopher is very high, and issues that he has with The God Delusion must be met, or the criticisms will, in a sense, stand by default. I have not seen anywhere where Nagel’s concerns have been considered, so I will try to do so here. It needs to be said at the outset that Nagel’s concerns have considerable merit, and cannot be so easily dismissed as other criticisms that have been made of Dawkins’ refutation of religion. In the end, however, I think it will be clear that his main concerns are not warranted.

Nagel’s review was published in The New Republic shortly after The God Delusion was published and is entitled “The Fear of Religion.” One of its strongest contentions may be Nagel’s point that, since Dawkins is not, in The God Delusion, working within the range of his scientific expertise,

The God Delusion lacks the superb instructive lucidity of his books on evolutionary theory, such as The Selfish Gene, The Blind Watchmaker, and Climbing Mount Improbable.

In fact, this is at once the strongest criticism of The God Delusion, as well as directing us to a clearer understanding of Dawkins’ purpose in writing The God Delusion than most reviewers have achieved. As Nagel says:

In his new book, he attacks religion with all the weapons at his disposal, and as a result the book is a very uneven collection of scriptural ridicule, amateur philosophy, historical and contemporary horror stories, anthropological speculations, and cosmological scientific argument. Dawkins wants both to dissuade believers and to embolden atheists. 

That seems to me to be very fair-minded.  It would be wrong to claim for The God Delusion a sophistication that it does not possess, a sophistication to which it does not aspire, and which would have, in the event, lost Dawkins the attention that he sought — and found! This is important. Had he taken Terry Eagleton’s line, and discussed Duns Scotus and Aquinas with appropriate attention to argumentative detail, Dawkins would have lost almost all his intended readers at the first post. But by treating Aquinas’ “five ways” with casual contempt, and the ontological argument with open derision, Dawkins carries out his stated purpose of showing appropriate disrespect for forms of believing in which evidence is neither demanded nor provided.

William Lane Craig, by the way, may consider these arguments as evidence, but this is simply a misunderstanding of the requirements of evidence. For instance, in the so-called Kalam cosmological argument, the claim that whatever begins to be must have a cause, is not evidence for anything. It is an apriori claim, and, even if it were successful, it could not determine what the nature of that cause must be, nor how the cause operated, or why. So, the jump to the Christian god at this point is unwarranted: there is simply no evidence. The religious cannot say more — and obviously even less — than physicists, for they just don’t know. Indeed, the argument should end on an expression of ignorance, but the religious, who think they already have the answers in their own faith commitments, plug their own beliefs into the argument at this point without noticing that the argument itself gives them no warrant for doing so.

But there is more to it than that, and this is not often remarked upon. To have joined the lists with philosophical theology, taking the standard arguments for the existence of god with the seriousness which experts in philosophical theology naturally accord them, Dawkins would already have conceded the field. By refusing to take the arguments with the seriousness the religious accord them Dawkins is in fact carrying out his intention, as Nagel says, “to overturn the convention of respect toward religion that belongs to the etiquette of modern civilization,” just as Eagleton, in his review of Dawkins, uses the same technique to reaffirm this convention. Nagel tells us that he found “these attempts at philosophy … particularly weak.” Fair enough. From a philosopher’s point of view, they are weak. However, it is only fair to add that these arguments long ago lost whatever force they might once have been thought to have, and casually dismissing them has the effect of carrying out one of Dawkins’ main aims: to overturn the convention of respect for religion, which, as Nagel points out, he does by

persistently violating the convention, and being as offensive as possible, and pointing out with gleeful outrage at absurd or destructive religious beliefs and practices.

Did Dawkins simply feel obliged to include something about natural theology, which is why it ended up being inadequate and superficial, or was this light treatment of the “subject” deliberately included as a boundary violation? Only Dawkins can answer that question, though, to consider the offence it seems to have caused, it was obviously successful in showing his contempt for religion and its unsupported claims to know.

At the same time, it has to said, I think, and has never really been pointed out by Dawkins’ detractors, that anyone who is familiar with the literature of Christian liberal dissent will have heard many of these contemptuous voices already, and will have experienced the outrage of liberal believers at the credulity and intellectual poverty of conservative religion. I think here, in particular, of Philip Kitcher, who, in a series of papers, as well as in a book, has shown the closeness of the liberal religious critique of religion to the atheist critique of religion. As I read through The God Delusion at a time when I was balanced on the knife-edge between liberal belief and unbelief, I found nothing at all offensive about Dawkins’ language, except for the one occasion when he said:

Sophisticated theologians aside (and even they are happy to tell miracle stories to the unsophisticated in order to swell congregations) … [59]

This is simply untrue. Indeed, my own experience was that congregations swelled when I told the truth, and expressed openly my questions and doubts about many of the things that Christians are supposed to take for granted. I know many clergy who retain a belief in miracles, but I do not know of any sophisticated theologian who would deliberately lie in such a self-serving way. The degree to which many Christians question their traditions is often — or at least was often —  surprisingly high, and for every person who was offended there were considerably more who were grateful to have their own suspicions confirmed.

However, back to Nagel. Nagel takes the heart of Dawkins’ book to lie in the fourth chapter: “Why there almost certainly is no god.”

In this central argument of Dawkins’ book, [Nagel says,]  the topic is not institutional religion or revealed religion, based on scripture, miracles, or the personal experience of God’s presence. It is what used to be called “natural religion,” or reflection on the question of the existence and nature of God using only the resources of ordinary human reasoning.

This, while not the source of most religious belief, as Nagel says, is nonetheless important.  And, important as it is, Nagel does not think that Dawkins’ argument succeeds. (It is worth pointing out, as an aside, that it is not clear that Nagel understands what Dawkins’ central argument is, for he misses the whole point about the improbability of god, based on the idea of god’s complexity. But since he does miss it, there’s scarcely any point discussing it further at this point.) In fact, according to Nagel, Dawkins’ argument fails for the very same reason that Dawkins gives for the failure of arguments to the existence of god. Evolution works well as an explanation for the existence of the living forms that populate the earth; however, says Nagel, just as in the case of arguments for the existence of god, if we take the argument back to the beginning, and ask how life began, we run into mystery. Just as Dawkins asks, “And who created God?”, we can ask, “How did life come about in the beginning?”, “How did there happen to be something on which natural selection could go to work?”

Nagel puts the point like this:

But at this point [regarding the non-biological precursors of DNA and RNA] the origin of life remains, in the light of what is known about the huge size, the extreme specificity, and the exquisite functional precision of the genetic material, a mystery — an event that could not have occurred by chance and to which no significant probability can be assigned on the basis of what we know of the laws of physics and chemistry.

But is this true? Is it true that the first organic molecule, the precursor of RNA and DNA, could not have occurred by chance? How could he know this? Nagel questions Dawkins’ probability argument of one chance in a billion that life has arisen on other planets in the billion billion galaxies of which ours is one. And he thinks that, because this could not have occurred by chance, that is why the design argument is still alive, that there must have been some intention or purpose, perhaps, as Nagel says, a least in the Aristotelian sense of “teleological principles in nature that are explained neither by intentional design nor by purposeless physical causation.”

Nagel’s point seems to be that there must be some internal or external purposiveness for things being as they are — that is part of the reason for his use of the word ‘mystery’ – and that physical causation cannot provide the basis for the purposiveness that we observe in nature, and especially, it seems, to the mental purposiveness that we perceive in ourselves. Only fear of religion, he thinks, can explain why so many “scientifically minded atheists … cling to a defensive, world-flattening reductionism.” And while Nagel acknowledges that there is some basis for this fear, since so many people continue to do dreadful things in the name of religion, he does not agree that the world would be better off without religion. Nor is there, he believes, any connexion “between the fascinating philosophical and scientific questions posed by the argument from design and the attacks of September 11.” And then he launches into his peroration:

Blind faith and the authority of dogma are dangerous; the view that we can make ultimate sense of the world only by understanding it as the expression of mind or purpose is not. It is unreasonable to think that one must refute the second in order to resist the first.

The trouble with this is simply that “the fascinating philosophical and scientific questions posed by the argument from design” are often raised on the battlefield where ignorant armies clash by night, rather than in the quiet of the philosopher’s study or scientist’s laboratory, and, fascinating or not, the questions that are posed are posed as much because of religious beliefs which do, in fact, lead to atrocities like those of September 11th, as because they are philosophically fascinating.

Besides, Nagel does not show us that there are any fascinating questions here. He states that there are, but he does not provide any substantial argument to show that there are still any fascinating questions worthwile discussing. In fact, he says at one point that we should just acknowledge our ignorance and our inability to give a comprehensive account of reality. But this is not, I suspect, an admission of ignorance on his part, but a statement of principle that there are more things in heaven and earth, Richard, than are dreamt of in your philosophy — or science. For it strikes me that Nagel’s review is seriously biased from the beginning by his own concerns about the irreducible significance of consciousness, which is not patient of the kind of flattening reductionism that he thinks occurs in science,  but must be acknowledged as something which cannot be accounted for by evolutionary processes. Nor, it seems to me, has he shown that Dawkins evinces any fear of religion, except insofar as blind faith and unquestioned dogma can be dangerous — as Nagel himself concedes. And if there is no reasonable ground upon which to base religious faith, is religious faith not blind, and therefore dangerous? The religious often play the tu quoque game at this point, and argue that science is also based on the faith that the universe will continue to behave in a law-governed way. Yes it is, but this faith is not baseless. Every time a result confirms an hypothesis, every time things continue to happen in regular, uniform ways that can be described in terms of the laws of science, faith that reality is law-governed is confirmed. And now, many centuries into the greatest scientific revolution in history, the law-governedness of the empirical world has been massively confirmed, so massively, as scientists have been pointing out for a long time now, as to bring the supposed existence of a purposive creator of the world into serious question.

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12 thoughts on “The God Delusion Again

  1. Not so much ‘Fear of Religion’ perhaps but rather Nagel’s ‘Fear of Reductionism’?

  2. Seems to me that by referring to the origins of life using phrases such as ‘could not have occurred by chance,’ Nagel is himself stepping outside of his area of expertise in exactly the same manner as he takes Dawkins to task for. His tone abd language suggests that he is familiar with or biased towards the religious arguments against scientific knowledge but not vice-versa. I do have a lot of respect for Nagel mind you, he was responsible for some wonderfully animated arguments back when I studied philosophy :-)

  3. A good response to Tom Nagel’s review of Prof. Dawkin’s book The God Delusion. When you cut through all the mumbo jumbo spoken by theists and quasi theists, the dictum “extraordinary claims need to be supported by extraordinary evidence”still holds true. In my view that is all Richard Dawkins is saying and saying it in a clear and concise language which folk can comprehend.

  4. Eric,

    You (and Tom Nagel) should read Stuart Kauffman’s book At Home in the Universe: The Search for the Laws of Self-Organization and Complexity. The origin of life is not the kind of nearly the kind of mystery that Nagel makes it out to be.

    He is right that Darwinian evolution requires improbably complex molecules that act as genes; he is quite wrong to think that evolution broadly speaking does.

    The origin of life is quite explicable in nonteleological terms, with incremental evolution of “autocatalytic sets” of molecules that catalyze each others’ creation. You get a kind of chemical soup that can grow and split, and thus “reproduce,” without a complicated master molecule.

    The basic idea is that something like very simple metabolism evolved, as a self-perpetuating constellation of chemicals, and evolved for quite a long time before anything recognizable as genes, getting better at catalyzing the creation of its constituent molecules and catalyzing the destruction of molecules that threaten the stability of the system. That creates a more stable environment in which certain molecules can incrementally take on more of a “master” role, and develop increasingly complex regulatory functions.

    The problem of studying the origin of life scientifically isn’t mainly the lack of theories that could explain it, but having too many theories and not enough evidence to distinguish between them. (Autocatalytic soups of chemicals don’t leave fossils.)

    Nagel is seriously wrong to write as though the origin of life was a profound philosophical mystery that leaves irreducible teleology looking attractive; there’s good reason to think that standard materialist explanation works just fine for that.

    BTW, the first chapter of At Home in the Universe sucks, and sounds like New Agey goo about how the universe is teleologically “friendly” to life. The rest of the book is pretty much the opposite—it’s explaining how the the universe doesn’t have to be particularly friendly, because there are lots of ways for complexity to arise. The kind of combinatorial mathematics that makes complicated master molecules improbable makes autocatalytic sets of simple chemicals probable. So hold your nose through chapter one, or just skip it; the rest of the book is very good. (It’s essentially a popularization of the main ideas in Kauffman’s The Origins of Order, which is even better, but too long and heavy for most audiences.)

    I was disappointed that Dawkins didn’t cover that stuff in TGD; I expected responses like Nagel’s, and thought they could have been preempted fairly easily and briefly.

  5. I’m puzzled that Nagel is so certain that life did not begin by chance. We just don’t like chance. It’s so, well, chancy, isn’t it? I mean, it’s so unlikely, there just must be a “proper reason”… Well, we look at what we know of how the world works and we recognise that interactions between, well, everything are so many and so complex that we can’t begin to trace them from one end to the other (assuming that “end” has any meaning beyond being an expression of our own mental processes). Some things are just random, which means that we don’t know how to predict them, that they seem intrinsically unpredictable, or as good as. Chance is beyond our understanding, beyond our control. Chance means “don’t understand it, can’t do anything about it”. That’s what we don’t like, why we can’t get to grips with it or accept it.

    The only “facts” are, by definition, the things that we can reasonably claim to know. The monotheists might like to jump in here (they do!) and talk about the Fact of God; but there is no Fact of God, there are no facts of God — nothing that can reasonably be claimed to be known. There is only endless speculation and leaping of faith and assertion of personal conviction, and Dawkins’s whole point is that it is useless, that it is an endless regurgitation of the same tired and inconcludable arguments, that its only product is a set of impossible demands that no one can live up to and which can only result in misery. And all courtesy of the devices and desires of assorted hearts.

    The fact that life manages to survive on our planet, in its particular solar system with its particular sun, does strongly suggest that life could have arisen (I’m not being funny). If conditions allow us to be here now, then why should it seem too unlikely that life could have arisen in the first place? What right have we to say that what certainly seems to have happened is “too unlikely” to have happened by chance? After all, are we not part of those very conditions? It isn’t as though there are “conditions” and then “us” as though in some odd way we aren’t really connected, as though we could be anything other than completely belonging to the whole, being (if you like) the whole taking a good look at itself, if only from the inside. Simply put, I see no reason why chance is so implausible. It isn’t as though chances don’t happen, and if we start insisting “why this chance?” then the only answer is “why any chance at all?” Unlikely? Well, that’s chance for you.

  6. “We just don’t like chance” (GordonWillis). Yes, that is an interesting aspect of the way our brains function. Look at the innate tendency for ‘magical’ thinking displayed by little children. The evolutionary explanation for our dislike of chance seems to me quite obvious: it certainly was (is) safer to attribute (lets say) the falling of a stone instantaneously and automatically to a potentially dangerous actor (predator, enemy, landslide) than to hesitate and consider the possibility that maybe there is no danger involved and that the stone just happened to fall down ‘by chance’. Not believing in chance and statistics must have had an important survival value in the past – and it still has in our times. It seems to me quite understandable that religious faith is not very compatible with our modern understanding of ‘chance and necessity’ in connection with the origin of life on earth.

  7. Hint to Christian apologists: There’s a reason they call them “arguments” and not “evidence”.

    Please stop conflating the two.

    Thank you.

  8. I see life as a process. The important element seems to be that energy cycle where energy is captured and converted into some kind of work. Clearly in order for that process to begin, there needs to be a fairly constant source of energy and some kind of stability.

    What fascinates me is the idea of motivation. What motivates life to persist? The answer is somewhat obvious–the transfer of energy and the resulting mechanical activity of molecules is all that is required.

    Our self-motivation evolved, but the primary cause of life is simply energy itself in the form of kinetic energy. And as such, life is inevitable under the right conditions.

  9. Eric,

    I’ve read all your reviews and really enjoyed them. I am especially interested in discussion of Dawkins’s Ultimate Boeing 747 Gambit. I think you did a very good job at answering many objections so far. What do you think of Alistair McGrath’s objection that in science it is often necessary to come up with theories more complex than what they explain? He offers the example of a theory of everything being more complex than the theories it replaces. I think it would be good for you to address this, though McGrath’s full response to Dawkins, the book “The Dawkins Delusion,” is probably too long to be dealt with in its entirety.

    Cheers,
    Peter

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