One of the most astonishing phenomena of the last few months was the Judgement Day predicted by Harold Camping for 21st May 2011, which would begin with earthquakes at 6 pm in one part of the world, and would continue with a rolling sequence of earthquakes, following the sun, throughout the day, finally engulfing the whole earth. What is astonishing is not that some deluded fool should have made this prediction. Doomsday predictions are a dime a dozen along the fringes of fundamentalist Christian faith worldwide. What is astonishing is that it should have been so widely publicised and so widely believed, even to the point of selling one’s possessions to await the foredoomed end of life on earth, and translation to a better and more holy place where the faithful would be rewarded. Contemplating with some glee the suffering of those left behind was part of a package deal of end of times rewards for the faithful. But how did so many believe it in the first place?
If this doesn’t show how deeply deluded religion is, then it is hard to know what would. And yet, without any doubt, people who occupy central positions amongst the majority Christian population of the United States think of Harold Camping as a deluded fool, and those who heeded his eschatological warnings as victims of a hoax. And this, despite the fact that it was Jesus himself who started this particular ball rolling. The only difference, we are to understand, between Harold Camping and his deluded followers, and “reasonable” Christians, is that the latter heed the words of Jesus, that neither he nor anyone else knows beforehand the day of his coming. He will come, we are told, like a thief in the night, and no one knows the hour of his coming, so we should always be ready when he comes. Of course, most believers pay no attention to these apocalyptic sayings of the risen man they address as Lord. Yet the apostle Paul never forgot that the day was soon to arrive, and, though believers had already started to die before the expected Day of the Lord had come, and he had to set the minds and hearts of the faithful at rest because of this, Paul still expected the coming of the Lord to occur during his lifetime.
Later Christians, clearly, were in a bit of a cleft stick so far as the Second Coming was concerned. Yes, of course, they lived expectantly, but life went on, and you can’t live on air, so it was necessary, not only to sell one’s goods and hold them for the common benefit of all while awaiting the end, but to find some kind of remunerative occupation. People needed to go on working, and some kind of established order in the growing church was necessary. The result, for the scriptures, was the inclusion of the letters — given the names of apostles, though no one really knows by whom they were written — which are now called pastoral: the letters to Timothy, and the letters of Peter, John, James and Jude. The pastoral epistles were clearly written only after the original shine had been taken off the eschatological fervour of the first Christians by the plodding, unremarkable passage of time. Order and organisation was now necessary, and planning for the future, and the Interimsethik of Jesus and Paul was no longer sufficient guidance for a growing community either. The original Christian ethic was understood to be for the interim between the death of Jesus and his coming again, and since he didn’t come — while it was still necessary to be ready to greet Jesus when he comes again, and so, like the provident virgins, believers must keep their lamps supplied with oil and the wicks trimmed — a new, more ordered, understanding of Christian ethics needed to take the place of the improvident values taught by Jesus. Much of this new Christian ethic was borrowed unblushingly from the Stoics and Epicureans, though few Christians now recall how dependent the so-called “Judeo-Christian” ethic was (and still is) on classical sources (See Wayne Meeks, The Origins of Christian Morality. Yale, 1993).
This may seem to be a strange way to begin the next installment of my commentary on The God Delusion and its critics, but it is, I think, important to see that these things are not discrete parts of an indiscriminate collection of ideas, but that they fit together into a whole. So, Dawkins’ argument in the chapter “Why there is almost certainly no God” cannot be kept separate from the other things that he has to say, and, indeed, argument for the claim that there is almost certainly no god is continued in the chapters that follow. Dawkins begins by calling god’s existence into question by using his argument to improbability. The status of this argument is still disputed, but I think Richard Norman is right in holding that the argument is very powerful. As he explains in his article “Holy Communion“:
[Dawkins] argues that whatever the explanation of the initial conditions may be, God is not a good explanation, because the existence of a hugely powerful intelligence who knew all the physical constants and scientific laws is even more difficult to explain than the things it is supposed to account for.
In response, philosophers like Richard Swinburne claim that it is a question of simplicity, and that god, unlike the physical conditions of the universe, is a simple substance, and therefore a superior candidate as an explanatory principle. But Norman replies:
Dawkins rightly points out that this is a confusion. The explanation in terms of a divine creator may be simply stated, but the entity that is supposed to do the explaining is a highly complex entity, not a “simple” one.
I agree. However — and this is the point of the present post — even if we are not quite sure that the argument is a good one, and any argument at this level of generality is liable to raise all sorts of questions, we are not left simply with this argument to fall back on. This is where the subsequent chapters of The God Delusion are vital to Dawkins’ argument. But — a caveat first. Dawkins is not a philosopher, nor is he a student of religion, an anthropologist or a psychologist. So, the whole book is written, aside from the parts of it that include reference to Dawkins’ own field of evolutionary biology, by an amateur speaking (largely) to amateurs. Not only that, but the book is written in a deliberately non-technical style so that it will be a help to quite ordinary folk who are trying to sort out where they stand on the question of religious belief. It is, you might say, atheist apologetics. So, we will expect, not only that Dawkins will reach out beyond his own academic specialty to address issues where he is not an expert. This is true already, of course, since he has discussed many questions, up to this point in the book, about which he is not an expert, and his detractors have not been slow to point this out.
Steven Weinberg’s response to this is perhaps the best one. Weinberg, a Noble laureate for his work in physics, wrote for the Times Literary Supplement, what is perhaps the most positive review of The God Delusion (published on 17 January 2007) — now available here. This was followed up by a number of letters in response to the original review, to which Dr. Weinberg responded in substantial, and, in many cases, decisive detail. This is still available on the Times site here. In the review itself Weinberg raises the question of amateurism:
I find it disturbing that Thomas Nagel in the New Republic dismisses Dawkins as an “amateur philosopher”, while Terry Eagleton in the London Review of Books sneers at Dawkins for his lack of theological training. Are we to conclude that opinions on matters of philosophy or religion are only to be expressed by experts, not mere scientists or other common folk? It is like saying that only political scientists are justified in expressing views on politics. Eagleton’s judgement is particularly inappropriate; it is like saying that no one is entitled to judge the validity of astrology who cannot cast a horoscope.
That is a decisive response to “Dawkins is only an amateur”, for the truth is that what he is discussing is religion, and if the only people who can speak about religion are the experts, then, since religion is an intimate part of the lives of billions of human beings, their lives must perforce be subject to the rule of experts. This is what Sayyid Qutb thought, that only the pure should be citizens of a renewed Islamicised Egypt. This is what the pope thinks, that only the hierarchy has the right to pronounce on issues of morality and religion. Steve Fuller sticks his funny bone into the correspondence, suggesting that, since Weinberg thinks that amateurs should be permitted to express their opinion regarding religion and philosophy, it is
Too bad that, in his last two books, he did not extend the same charity to historians, philosophers and sociologists who offered non-expert commentary on the nature of physics. We might then have avoided the ongoing Science wars.
Of course, the worth of a non-scientist like Fuller commenting on technical scientific issues such as the ”conflict” between ”intelligent design” and evolution was illustrated by the disastrous ”evidence” he offered at the Kitzmiller-Dover trial, one of the most embarrassing displays of amateurishness on public record. But science is like watch-making. It takes years of apprenticeship and supervision to achieve reasonable expertise. This does not mean that amateurs cannot comment on science. Many do. Science journalists often have a background in science, but are not practicing scientists as a rule, and yet they comment in detail, sometimes, on the achievements of science. To be able to assess the results of scientific consensus at the cutting edge of experimental physics or biology, however, takes a great deal more expertise than most well-informed amateurs possess.
The same thing, no doubt, goes for philosophy too, though, interestingly enough, not necessarily for theology. To join in as a participant in theological discussion requires a familiarity with the terms used and the positions that various theologians have taken. This, no doubt, is a kind of knowledge, though a very peculiar kind. Indeed, many theologians have abandoned the quest for truth about god, since god is acknowledged to be impenetrable mystery, and have replaced this with a search for the Truth (with a capital ‘T’) about human life. One theologian states plainly that
God is a functional name for the who or what on which one wagers one’s lived-meaning. [W. Paul Jones, Theological Worlds, 13]
But, later, he points out that, in order to ascertain the truth of one’s theological world — that is, the realm of one’s lived-meaning – we must begin
… with the awareness that truth, defined functionally, is multiple, relative to the particularity of the subject and to one’s defining context. Within that pluralism, what functions as God becomes what one can trust without betrayal, and obey without idolatry. … Thus a theological proposition is true, Gordon Kaufman insists, “if it somehow enhances human life, leading to its fuller realization.” [15]
(The reader will not have missed the fact that this simply cannot be an account of what is true.) I don’t plan to pursue this here, but suggestions like this, which at one time permitted me to retain “faith” at a time when I questioned most of what went to make up the content of the Christian belief system, are clearly no longer raising questions of truth at all, even though they speak the language of truth. And just as a footnote to this, though it is true that technical philosophy sometimes requires a great deal of technical expertise in various forms of logic, Bayesian probability, etc., philosophy is still, as Socrates held, the love of wisdom, and no one is excluded from the demand to exercise their critical faculties in order to make one’s own life (as well as the decisions that one makes in life) one that is reasonably based on a critical understanding of the world, one’s relationships with others, and the demands that the truth and morality make on one’s choices. There is simply no reason to hide philosophy away in technical journals, and every reason why philosophers should seek to make themselves understood outside the academy, a trend in philosophy which has become more urgent over the last few decades when religion has been making resurgent demands on people’s obedience, while denying with even more emphasis the value of critical (secular) thought.
All this, so far, by means of prolegomena to what I really want to say in this post! It’s very easy simply to dismiss Dawkins’ efforts in chapter 4 on the improbability of the existence of god, and then treat the rest of the book as incidental. But it’s not. If god’s existence is, as Dawkins claims, very improbable, as I think it is, then the question, Why are people so religious?, becomes a pressing one, and the answers to that question, even if still disputable, as Dawkins suggests (see 188), are part of the argument for god’s improbability. If we can provide plausible answers to the question of the existence of religion, and belief in gods, then we have given further reasons to believe that god does not exist. While it is true that, by themselves, the argument that religion is, say, the product of the evolutionary development of the human brain, for example, its tendency to ascribe agency to things, as a matter of survival, this does not show that religion can simply be reduced to this evolved tendency; nevertheless, if it is highly improbable that there is a god, then the fact that human development tends to skew our response to things in the direction of ascriptions of agency to things which do not possess agency, then this, if it explains aspects of the human tendency to believe in gods, is further support for the argument to improbability. I do not think that Dawkins’ critics recognise this sufficiently.
Religion claims to explain a great deal about human life. It explains, they say, why we think life is valuable. It explains why we obey moral laws. It explains why we ascribe special value to human life, and why murder is so heinous. But if it is highly improbable that there is a god, as Dawkins claims and argues, then the fact that we can explain the meaning of life, the value of life and morality, as well as our belief in gods, by other means which dispense with gods entirely, then these facts about human life — as I believe they are — further support the argument to the improbability of god’s existence. For if god’s existence is antecedently improbable, then the fact that we can explain human life naturalistically is not reductionist, as so many religious apologists claim, but explanatory. The later chapters of Dawkins’ book are central to its main argument.
I really enjoy your sermons and the blog
I have been reading in posts at WEIT, Butterflies, and Metamagician and here that Terry Eagleton among others think we atheists need to be educated in the finer elements of theology. Would you mind providing a list of what you consider the more rigorous Christian apologetics. What are the classic arguments that I should know? Maybe this could be blog post.
Augustine, Aquinas, Duns Scotus?
Eriugena on subjectivity, Rahner on grace, Moltmann on hope?
Orthodoxy by Chesterton?
Reaching for the Invisible God by Yancey
The Great Divorce, A Grief Observed, The Abolition of Man by Lewis?
Paul Tillich, Alfred North Whitehead, Paul Ricoeur, Rudolf Bultmann, Edward Schillebeeckx, Bernard Lonergan, Karl Barth, John Bowker, Elizabeth Johnson, Karl Rahner, Jürgen Moltmann, Wolfhart Pannenberg, Ian Barbour, David Tracy, Dorothee Soelle, Sallie McFague, Henri de Lubac, Hans Jonas, Emil Fackenheim, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, D’Souza?
I think there needs to be a very clear understanding of the difference between the idea of delusion and the idea of belief. Dawkins in his preface, goes to the trouble of explaining the difference between delusion and belief, thus requiring us change our perspective, from rationalists to psychologists. That is a subtle, but also a profound change.
Dawkins explains that his book is aimed at ‘free spirits’ and now we must recognise two different religious audiences:
Type A: The deluded who are incapable of listening to reason.
Type B: Free spirits who are not deluded, but have been kept ignorant from the arguments and knowledge that shows religion is false. Or perhaps they go along with religion because they believe it is good.
The book aims to raise their conscious, to show them that they have been kept ignorant. Hence, Dawkins acts as he has always acted, as educator.
His book is not a polemic aimed at serious intellectuals, explaining a theses about why God is a delusion. In fact, he even states how much he dislikes confrontation, something of which he has no choice because of the attacks made upon what he loves and cherishes: science.
Dawkins book is like a wedge, or a wooden stake that he thrusts into the world, a kind of message in a bottle that he hopes will fall randomly into the right hands, the hands of the open-minded, because he understands that his message normally gets silenced or suppressed by religious privilege.
And so we must also come to understand that we free spirits have escaped religion, not because we were deluded, but because we weren’t conscious of alternatives, we weren’t aware of the powerful influence that the deluded have over us. Or we went along with it, for whatever reason, because it is the thing to do.
I will say one thing immediately in response. Lewis’s A Grief Observed is, I believe, one of the best arguments against belief in god. Lewis knew this, and he fudged right in the middle so that he didn’t need to give up on faith. It’s the classic cheat. You just redefine your terms, and there you are! Evil becomes good, absence becomes presence.
Oh, and by the by. I’ve never preached a ‘sermon’ in my life! Always homilies, never semons.
Indeed, nobody ever demands people to have degree in theology or philosophy to *promote* religion.
As for why more people noted Camping, my personal suspicion is on his advertising. And not just the publicity that created directly, but also the knowledge that someone was willing to spend a lot of good money on it. People have a well-known tendency to think that what is expensive must be good.
Yes, you’re probably right. That’s why they built cathedrals, after all! Anything that you spend that much on must be true!
I am always wary of claims about the ‘probability’ of the existence of God. Probability is a mathematical term with a strict meaning: it applies only in future situations where there are several possible outcomes and a lack of complete knowledge about the factors determining the outcome. To say ‘the probability of heads coming up is one in two’ only makes sense if a) the coin has not been tossed yet and b) we don’t know exactly how it will be tossed. We can safely extend probability to cover events which have taken place but of which we don’t yet know the results, although what we are describing here is not really the probability of the outcome but the probability of my being right about the outcome.
None of this, however, applies to the existence of God. If God exists then the probability of his existence is one; if not, it is zero. The probability of my being right about the existence of God is a meaningless, incalculable figure based on all sorts of assumptions about past events, conceptions of what constitutes evidence and the validity or not of so-called ‘proofs’.
I am convinced to my own satisfaction that the probability of God’s existence is zero, and I am prepared to say so in public at any time. I think any consistent atheist is perfectly entitled to say the same thing. Of course we could be wrong: but the mere possibility of being wrong has no impact on my certainty that I am right, any more than the possibility that I might have three hands has any impact on my certainty that I have two.
What Dawkins seems to be saying is that he thinks there is a small possibility that he may one day change his mind about the non-existence of God. Fair enough; but this is very different from admitting RIGHT NOW that he considers there is any probability of God’s existing. Admitting even the smallest possibility of God’s existence — assuming you don’t believe such a possibility actually exists — is simply playing into the hands of theist apologists.
I have encountered the “you are not an expert” argument quite a few times when discussing theology with Christians. They say I wasn’t an expert or qualified to comment because I hadn’t read the Bible or I hadn’t read a particular obscure text confirming Jesus’ existence and also that of God. I thought it best that I start my education and have subsequently read Hitchens, Dawkins, Loftus and am about to embark on reading the Bible. Internet blogs and YouTube videos are also a fairly common staple in my religious education diet at the moment.
I am told that the “truth” can be found in the Bible. I could draw the conclusion that I don’t need to read any books written by Christian “experts”. There seems little point in reading books that interpret the true meaning of the Bible. Interpretations lead to inconsistencies and inconsistencies are strewn across the spectrum of Christian “experts” around the world. In my mind, this damages the credibility of the experts and the writings of their truth book.
I do know that I will continue my education and never become an expert in the minds of Christians. I feel this is because I haven’t handed the reins of my life over to a God or over to Jesus.
I will also continue to encounter Christians who tell me I am not am expert because I haven’t read an obscure religious text or apparent eye witness accounts of Jesus such as those by Flavius Josephus. Every encounter will add another book to the pile I have read and still they will deny me and ride in the gaps, just like their God.
In contrast, there are many Christians and many Christian experts that haven’t even bothered with furthering their own education. Apparently they already have all of the knowledge they need and it’s in the form of a sermon or the Bible, of which they haven’t full read. At least Dawkins, as a scientist, actually bothered to educate himself on topics outside his area of expertise. This is far more than I can say about any number of Christians who regularly demonstrate their ignorance of the field of science but feel qualified to comment on it.
It takes me three hours to read one of your posts! *read* *ponder* *re-read* *ponder* *research* (add to list of “must read this book/article/review”) *proceed*
Touché.
I didn’t know the difference. I had to look it up. I’m still not sure I have it straight other than a homily is shorter more reflective and not didactic.
Unless you simply mean you don’t give long tedious speeches. To which I most certainly agree.
I’m with ya.
I feel like I’ve enrolled at MacDonald’s U.
Hello jonjermey:
If outside of an academic context you ask a mathematician what is “the probability” of something, you’ll rather commonly find the answer is not technical, common even. For my own part, when I hear (or read) probability in a non-academic, non-technical environment, in my mind it is indistinguishable from “chance” or “odds” and even “wild guess”. The initiated know full-well that there are conditions to which probability is not amenable.
However, not having undertaken writing TGD as did Dawkins, the best answer possible isn’t demanded of me in these casual situations, but I am nevertheless free to give a casual answer “good” or “meh” or “horrible”, or a technical rebuke – the question is stupid as it implies no meaningful answer. Dawkins’ situation in TGD, one notes, is decidedly more precarious. On the one hand, we know he’s a scientist and we expect a certain level of rigor in his writings. On the other hand (I have different fingers!), we know it’s a popular book which aims to speak to a lay audience.
It follows then from my own reckoning that he gave just about the best answer to the question as he could, taking into account that the question is technically meaningless, but functionally meaningful to the primary target of the book: those who aren’t particularly scientific or mathematically knowledgeable. Further, if to meet the goal of convincing laypeople, he has to work within the bounds of what he’s working against in form and terminology. For the aforementioned reasons, those fence-sitters are accustomed to hearing statistics and probability applied to things, so he has to use that language for credibility. He also has to leave open an elegant riposte against the charge that he’s a fundamentalist atheist. Even with his rather tame concessions in this regard, he is still today finding himself staving off accusations of being close-minded and fundamentalist in his atheist religion. It would, one imagines, surely not do him (or us) any favors to put fuel to that fire.
I think his scaling system accounts for all those factors and strikes a reasonably good, reasonably cogent balance: I don’t believe it; it’s highly unlikely to be true, but I’m open-minded enough to accept that it could be possible. Were I a laymen on these matters, I would expect that to resonate more strongly with me than to hear someone say that it’s a categorically bad question and there’s no chance whatever that a god exists, simpliciter. After all, if I’m in a position where I’m stuck between believing and not, there is clearly something that hasn’t sufficed to put me over the hump in either direction. One example of which is the vagaries of religious certitude. I needn’t speculate on that for my own part because when I was a child it was one of the important factors for my being uncomfortable with the profoundly religious – they were just too overbearingly self-confident in their infallibility.
Moreover, certainty isn’t much a friend of knowledge. I think it’s good in the long-run that Dawkins failed to foreclose an answer to: could your mind be changed? At least in rejoinder, he is on firmer footing than this religious counterparts inasmuch as he’s presented the image of someone who is prepared to capitulate should our opponents do justice to their task. This makes for a lovely contrast against the common answer from the religious to the same question: nothing. Nothing at all.
One thing of note with respect to not having theological (babblical) scholarship is that its scholarship doesn’t seem to resolve questions. Consider that in a mere span of 2,000 years, babblical scholarship has led to something like 38,000 mutually exclusively scholarly conclusions deriving from the same set of data. One should think that if there is actual scholarship to be had, we would not see these kinds of mutually incompatible conclusions being drawn. Alas, the only they can all agree on is that each one of them is right and every one else is wrong. Read any bit of scholarly work in the field you want and make some predictions. Then go read any other scholarly work in the field and make some predictions. Now go read the reverse of a milk carton and make some predictions. It would seem that your likelihood of being right is roughly the same.
In science and mathematics, say, there appears to be utility in scholarship. In only a couple hundred years of work, there is considerable convergence on the same, or similar, conclusions from completely unrelated problems in fields as different as one should like. What is more in this regard is that we at least know the convergence is predicated on data collected about objects and phenomena demonstrably extant, and yields models with the ability to reliably predict the “future”.
From the Los Angeles Times, 21 May:
“Camping has been counting down in his 2011 “At-A-Glance” calendar: Day 100, Day 99, Day 98….
In the book, Evans has noted his appointments over his expected last weeks on Earth, and a reminder of his daughter’s 3rd birthday. On May 21, he has written the words, “Have mercy Lord!” The rest of the book is blank.”
Camping made a similar prediction in 1994. For a man who believes the “end is near,” Camping is very optimistic: he enters into a relationship, fathers a child for posterity and looks forward to celebrating the child’s third birthday.
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